In part one of “What you need to know… About filming with Super 8,″ I shared advice from industry peeps on what every event filmmaker needs to know about filming with Super 8mm. In part two we took a look at what film stocks are available, what our peers favorite stocks are, and who they use and trust for processing and transfer. In part three it’s all about what you need to know when buying Super 8mm cameras.
We have a couple of Super 8mm cameras. One of them we inherited. It’s a Sankyo EM 60XL. It shoots at 18, 24, and 36 frames per second and has split glass focusing. I’ve really loved this little camera, and when we had the first roll from it developed and transferred in 2008 I knew I was going to be hooked on filming with Super 8mm. By 2010 I realized we needed a second camera and several people recommended the Canon 814 Auto Zoom. Because we’d gotten so lucky with the passed down Sankyo, I didn’t want to tempt fate by going the eBay route, and decided we’d buy it from a respected reseller, Du-All Camera in New York. As I mentioned in the videolog in part one, we were VERY excited when the Canon arrived and took it straight out to a “Save the Date” shoot. We shot five rolls of film that day. When we had the film processed, we found that anything filmed in bright sunlight with the Canon was severely overexposed. We were shooting with Kodak EKTACHROME 100D Color Reversal Film 7285, so bright sunlight shouldn’t have been an issue. The only thing I could attribute it too was, that having grown up with SLR cameras, I felt confident adjusting the aperture manually. On our next outing with the camera, I kept the aperture on automatic. This time when we got the film back, anything filmed in bright sunlight resulted in even stranger exposure problems – it pretty much blacked out the image whenever things got to bright. Again, we were using Kodak 100D film.
To their credit, Du-All replaced the camera after we shared the footage with them. I really can’t over emphasize how important it is to shoot, develop and transfer some film before you use a new Super 8mm camera on a paid shoot. Depending on what camera you buy, it’s going to be a LEAST a couple of decades old, so even buying from a respected reseller isn’t going to be an absolute guarantee that the camera is in perfect working order. There’s a silver lining to this story, never one let good footage go to waste if it’s even barely useable, I worked some of the over exposed “Save the Date” footage into our couples’ wedding film trailer and they LOVED it.
Here’s what our peers who shoot Super 8mm on a regular basis have to say on the subject of buying cameras:
Do you have any advice on buying Super 8mm cameras?
Kat Small, Cinema Chic Productions
This is tough since you are buying used equipment. The only thing I can say is – do your homework. Have an idea of what make and model will work best for you, ask people in the business what they are shooting with, inquire as to what dents and dings are common. It’s critical that all parts on the camera are working because finding someone to repair these cameras is very difficult. Most important, as with any camera, is the lens. This must be in perfect condition.
Celia Hilton, Hilton Heads Productions
When choosing a Super 8mm camera, there are a few features which are non-negotiable. You want a camera that accepts 64T and 100D film stock, because the film is new and the cameras are not. Look for a camera which meters light properly. Split glass focusing is a good feature, and you want a camera that offers a variety of frame rates (18, 24, 54, 1 for animation). Don’t let sound be a deciding factor because you don’t need or want it. There are literally hundreds of brands, but that should help narrow your search.
Megan Hill, Hello Super 8
I stick with Canon and Nikon cameras. I’ve purchased cameras on eBay, Craigslist and super 8 retailers. It’s very tempting to buy cheap models off of eBay/Craigslist but you’ll be taking a risk. You never know the real condition of the cameras until you actually test them out and you could get a lemon. To be safe, it’s best pay a little more, and to go with a retailer who has quality tested cameras like Du-All Camera in NY, Super 8 Camera Shop in Germany, and Super 8 Film in Austria.
Matt Buckman, I Do Films
If you are going to buy a Super 8 camera, buy either a Canon or a Nizo. The Canon 1014 XL-S is, in my opinion, the best Super 8 camera ever made. You’ll notice it’s a lot heavier than most other Super 8 cameras. It’s very well built, has a nice big lens, shoots in the various speeds I want, and has never jammed up on me. The Canon 814 is also a great camera, just a little smaller with a few less features than the 1014. I’m also a big fan of Nizo cameras because they are very good at auto exposure if you need it, they’re very simple to use, and they look cool. Of the Nizo models, I recommend either the 801 or the Professional. A good place to look for a camera is from Du-All Camera. They have lots of models and usually refurbish the cameras.
Steve Moses, Vantage Point Productions
I have used eBay with great success. The way to avoid a bad camera is this; if it is priced really low, something is probably wrong with it. Make sure the seller is rated high and that they have a return policy. I love my Canon 814 XL-S paid $495 for it, which is about norm. Always shoot a test roll and see the results before a paid gig.
Bryan Coward, Tampa Wonderworks Films
I have a Canon 814XLS and an 814 AutoZoom. I love them both but the XLS is my baby. I bought the XLS from Super 8 Arena in Germany and I got a great deal on it. The autozoom I bought locally off of Craigslist. I have had to send the XLS off for repair and I used Du-All Camera in New York City. They did such a fantastic job repairing the camera that is dawned on me if I would have bought it from them in the 1st place I would have saved money. They really managed to get it looking and sounding better than ever!
And we’re going to give the last word on buying a Super 8 camera to Chris P. Jones, Mason Jar Films
For some reason, and I was guilty of this too, event filmmakers inherently seem to think that it is ok to buy a Super 8 cameras off of eBay and take the risk that the camera will operate effectively. I don’t know if there’s a worse way to get started in Super 8 filmmaking than doing this. This is going to be a camera that you are using for professional purposes, and it’s likely to be 25+ years old. Would you buy a video camera for a paid shoot that is 10 years old and from someone who has recently pulled it out of their closet after 5 years of it being boxed up? Heck no you wouldn’t!
I buy from Du-All Camera, but you can also find what you need from the Super 8 Camera Shop in Germany as well as Spectra Film & Video. You can spend as little as $300-$500 and get a solid unit.
Summary: That’s our last post for “what you need to know… about filming with Super 8.” We hope you’ve found this sub-series on Super 8mm filming helpful! Look out for my next article in the “what you need to know” series “What you need to know about… conducting interviews.”
Joanna Banks-Morgan of Diva Productions has spent most of her 43 years in newsrooms or on sets. The daughter of a journalist and an actor, she was bitten by the producing bug early. She attended Cardiff University’s Journalism, Film, and Television program in Wales and started her career in 1992 with British broadcaster Westcountry Television. Before creating Diva Productions in 2007 with husband/business partner Robert Banks-Morgan, Joanna worked for CBS 42 KEYE in Austin, Texas where she also attended St. Edward’s University, graduating Summa Cum Laude with a degree in Communications.
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